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		<title>By: A description of Australia&#8217;s healthcare system at John Barrdear</title>
		<link>http://barrdear.com/john/2007/08/07/the-exponential-rise-of-bureaucracy/comment-page-1/#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator>A description of Australia&#8217;s healthcare system at John Barrdear</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] but the administrative overhead in the state government health departments is surprisingly large, even to me.  I am led to believe that adminstrators and middle-managers exceed more than 50% of the staff of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cam</title>
		<link>http://barrdear.com/john/2007/08/07/the-exponential-rise-of-bureaucracy/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southsearepublic.org/article/963/read/dynamic_and_static_business_models&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trackback, went off in a tangent&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.southsearepublic.org/article/963/read/dynamic_and_static_business_models" rel="nofollow">trackback, went off in a tangent</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: John Barrdear</title>
		<link>http://barrdear.com/john/2007/08/07/the-exponential-rise-of-bureaucracy/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>John Barrdear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT and bureaucracy are certainly a tumultuous mix.

My personal experience to-date suggests that good IT (i.e. IT that is designed, implemented and used well) offers the competing results you speak of -- an initial decrease in the need for bureaucrats and increased opportunities for other data-related bureaucratic activities.

In practice, I have seen two other phenomena that both work to increase bureaucratic staff numbers:

a) IT tends to make work practices quite rigid.  There is one way of doing things and that is the way coded into the system.  This certainly gives the dramatic efficiency gains that you speak of, but is often ill-suited to the vagaries of changing requirements.  I have seen so many cobbled-together work-arounds for so many systems in my life that I couldn&#039;t begin to count them.  I have also spoken to (and worked with) many, many bureaucrats whose professional lives ride on those work-arounds.

b) IT projects, at least in the public sphere, are rarely implemented (or, frankly, designed) well.  This seems to exacerbate the problem in point (a).

I don&#039;t mean to dismiss the power of IT in reducing bureaucratic overhead.  My professional life up until taking on economics was all about using IT for exactly that purpose.  I&#039;m just not sure how we might identify when it would actually decrease the number of bureaucrats and when it would simply increase the volume of output from the bureaucracy without increasing the amount of &quot;true&quot; work achieved or decreasing the staff levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT and bureaucracy are certainly a tumultuous mix.</p>
<p>My personal experience to-date suggests that good IT (i.e. IT that is designed, implemented and used well) offers the competing results you speak of &#8212; an initial decrease in the need for bureaucrats and increased opportunities for other data-related bureaucratic activities.</p>
<p>In practice, I have seen two other phenomena that both work to increase bureaucratic staff numbers:</p>
<p>a) IT tends to make work practices quite rigid.  There is one way of doing things and that is the way coded into the system.  This certainly gives the dramatic efficiency gains that you speak of, but is often ill-suited to the vagaries of changing requirements.  I have seen so many cobbled-together work-arounds for so many systems in my life that I couldn&#8217;t begin to count them.  I have also spoken to (and worked with) many, many bureaucrats whose professional lives ride on those work-arounds.</p>
<p>b) IT projects, at least in the public sphere, are rarely implemented (or, frankly, designed) well.  This seems to exacerbate the problem in point (a).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to dismiss the power of IT in reducing bureaucratic overhead.  My professional life up until taking on economics was all about using IT for exactly that purpose.  I&#8217;m just not sure how we might identify when it would actually decrease the number of bureaucrats and when it would simply increase the volume of output from the bureaucracy without increasing the amount of &#8220;true&#8221; work achieved or decreasing the staff levels.</p>
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		<title>By: cam</title>
		<link>http://barrdear.com/john/2007/08/07/the-exponential-rise-of-bureaucracy/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To throw another variable in, software has enabled a decrease in bureaucrats (in private industry anyway I have no experience of public service) required often as much as 80%, but as you mentioned it gives new opportunities for data collection and the requisite hands to make sense/manage/store that data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To throw another variable in, software has enabled a decrease in bureaucrats (in private industry anyway I have no experience of public service) required often as much as 80%, but as you mentioned it gives new opportunities for data collection and the requisite hands to make sense/manage/store that data.</p>
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