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	<title>Comments on: Farm subsidies promote terrorism</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Burke</title>
		<link>http://barrdear.com/john/2008/04/11/farm-subsidies-promote-terrorism/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's also a free trade angle on this, some commentators are claiming world cereal markets are so volatile because they are relatively illiquid. Most eg rice production is for heavily protected domestic markets, only a small surplus is usually sold into the world market ... then when one of the few big participants in that market, like Australia, is hit by water shortage (and Australian rice production is also subsidised via cheap water), big price increases result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also a free trade angle on this, some commentators are claiming world cereal markets are so volatile because they are relatively illiquid. Most eg rice production is for heavily protected domestic markets, only a small surplus is usually sold into the world market &#8230; then when one of the few big participants in that market, like Australia, is hit by water shortage (and Australian rice production is also subsidised via cheap water), big price increases result.</p>
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		<title>By: John Barrdear</title>
		<link>http://barrdear.com/john/2008/04/11/farm-subsidies-promote-terrorism/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>John Barrdear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've only got a few gut reactions, I'm afraid:
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&lt;li&gt;It's very important when considering any policy actions beyond direct food aid to have a reasonable idea of why the price rises have occurred (has demand risen or supply fallen?) and whether those changes are temporary or permanent. 
&lt;li&gt;Groups like Oxfam are arguing that supply has fallen and blame the West and their demand for biofuels: the charge is that crop-land that was once being used to grow food for direct consumption is being moved to crops for biofuels, so there is a drop in supply.  Personally, I'd be surprised if that was responsible for all, or even most, of the price increases.  The cynic in me wonders if Oxfam might just be using it as a means of justifying an increase in aid (which may be a good thing, but will be so for reasons independent of food prices).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I seem to remember that world wheat production was very low last year because most of the major producers (including Australia) were affected by bad weather.  Putting aside climate change (because even a five-year drought isn't &lt;em&gt;caused&lt;/em&gt; by climate change), that will have been a temporary drop in supply.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Increases in demand will be coming from the increasing wealth of the developing world.  I know that some people point the finger at the increasing demand for meat and the fact that grain is diverted to feed those animals.  That's certain to be part of the story, but I wonder why it would necessarily push up the price of rice or wheat.  Is it just because the land has been switched over to feed-grain?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If the high prices are sustained, they will certainly spur more production, which will bring them back down a little.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hopefully developing countries will use the higher prices as a reason to improve the infrastructure for agricultural productivity (irrigation, land rights, roads, etc.).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Just as important (for Africa) but with less hope, I think that the governments there ought to allow, even if they don't encourage, the use of GM crops.  Even before the recent price increase, &lt;a href="http://barrdear.com/john/2008/03/30/killing-the-worlds-poor-through-good-intentions/" rel="nofollow"&gt;forbidding GM has been killing people&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only got a few gut reactions, I&#8217;m afraid:</p>
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<li>It&#8217;s very important when considering any policy actions beyond direct food aid to have a reasonable idea of why the price rises have occurred (has demand risen or supply fallen?) and whether those changes are temporary or permanent.
</li>
<li>Groups like Oxfam are arguing that supply has fallen and blame the West and their demand for biofuels: the charge is that crop-land that was once being used to grow food for direct consumption is being moved to crops for biofuels, so there is a drop in supply.  Personally, I&#8217;d be surprised if that was responsible for all, or even most, of the price increases.  The cynic in me wonders if Oxfam might just be using it as a means of justifying an increase in aid (which may be a good thing, but will be so for reasons independent of food prices).</li>
<li>I seem to remember that world wheat production was very low last year because most of the major producers (including Australia) were affected by bad weather.  Putting aside climate change (because even a five-year drought isn&#8217;t <em>caused</em> by climate change), that will have been a temporary drop in supply.</li>
<li>Increases in demand will be coming from the increasing wealth of the developing world.  I know that some people point the finger at the increasing demand for meat and the fact that grain is diverted to feed those animals.  That&#8217;s certain to be part of the story, but I wonder why it would necessarily push up the price of rice or wheat.  Is it just because the land has been switched over to feed-grain?</li>
<li>If the high prices are sustained, they will certainly spur more production, which will bring them back down a little.</li>
<li>Hopefully developing countries will use the higher prices as a reason to improve the infrastructure for agricultural productivity (irrigation, land rights, roads, etc.).</li>
<li>Just as important (for Africa) but with less hope, I think that the governments there ought to allow, even if they don&#8217;t encourage, the use of GM crops.  Even before the recent price increase, <a href="http://barrdear.com/john/2008/03/30/killing-the-worlds-poor-through-good-intentions/" rel="nofollow">forbidding GM has been killing people</a>.</li>
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		<title>By: Ross Sandon</title>
		<link>http://barrdear.com/john/2008/04/11/farm-subsidies-promote-terrorism/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Sandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read that The UN has stated that world food prices have risen by 45% in the past 9 months. The report read  "Following our report on record rice prices last week, the UN has issued an official warning about the impact of rising global food prices, reporting that world food prices have risen 45% in the last nine months and that there are serious shortages of rice, wheat and maize. The UN has stated that ‘urgent measures are needed’ to protect the world’s poor, who are the most adversely affected by this kind of inflation as food consumes a higher proportion of their incomes. "

Any thougths?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read that The UN has stated that world food prices have risen by 45% in the past 9 months. The report read  &#8220;Following our report on record rice prices last week, the UN has issued an official warning about the impact of rising global food prices, reporting that world food prices have risen 45% in the last nine months and that there are serious shortages of rice, wheat and maize. The UN has stated that ‘urgent measures are needed’ to protect the world’s poor, who are the most adversely affected by this kind of inflation as food consumes a higher proportion of their incomes. &#8221;</p>
<p>Any thougths?</p>
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